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    “See to it no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ” (Colossians 2:8).

    « Because I Like It | God is NOT Like the Ocean (Part 1 of 2) »

    God is NOT Like the Ocean (Part 2) 

    Why Does This Matter?


    Why does any of this make a difference in the long run? Because we must be very cautious how we portray God to others. He has described Himself in His word (Bible). He has revealed Himself in His word. Anything else becomes a trend, fad, or human tradition, which the Bible has a lot to say on in a negative sense.


    “Any creed that creeps into the church and takes its place along side scripture, and is freely quoted in place of legitimate scripture, and is assumed to be as equally correct as a quote from scripture requires our attention. Consider such a false creed to be a tiny grain of leaven.  "…Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough?" (1 Corinthians 5:6b)”   (http://www.thefaithfulword.org/mostglorifiedwhen.html)


    “On Christ the solid Rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand” (hymn by Edward Mote, http://www.faithalone.org/journal/1998i/Ward.html). Taking our cues on how we view God from other people, even if they are singers, artists, authors, or poets is a very bad idea-sinking sand. Take your cues on how to view God by His own word alone, the Bible.




    It may not even matter where this idea comes from. The main point (part 1) is that it most certainly isn’t Bible-based. As best I can tell, all this “God-is-like-the-ocean-and-we-need-to-drown-in-it” stuff comes from mystical writings, especially those of the Hindu and so-called “spiritual disciplines” kind (ironically, the Catholic “spiritual disciplines” are identical to Buddhist practices, which are identical to New Age practices, which are identical to both ancient and neo pagan practices, which are identical to many practices from other religions such as Unitarian, Scientology, ). See part 1 for list of resources.


    “The Hindu mystic Rajjab writes:

    The worship of the different religions,
    which are like so many small streams,
    move together to meet God, who is like the ocean


    The Greeks (and then the Romans) described Poseidon (Neptune) as the water/ocean god, and one of the three most powerful deities (http://www.pantheon.org/articles/p/poseidon.html). Poseidon was also a fertility god.


    Because you can’t have life without water, the ancients believed life sprang from water. The goddess of love and beauty, Aphrodite (Venus) was also born from the ocean in a seashell (Like Ariel was supposed to come forth for her singing debut in Disney’s the “Little Mermaid”). The Egyptians likewise, worshipped the Nile.  


    If grace is an ocean, we’re all sinking.
    So Heaven meets earth like an unforeseen kiss,”

    (Song, “How He Loves”, 2005, by John Mark McMillan)


    It is of value to also analyze the second line in this song, which has a similar history and trend in Christian music and art. This line also harkens back to Greek and Roman myth about the sky god Uranus coming together physically (sexually) with the earth goddess, Gaia.  The Bible does not describe Jesus' mission, ministry, or birth in a sexual or sensual manner. 


    It is something to consider that God purposely showed His power over the ocean to prove Himself real to ancient pagans, similar to the result in Jonah,

    Then the sailors picked Jonah up and threw him into the raging sea, and the storm stopped at once! 16 The sailors were awestruck by the Lord’s great power, and they offered him a sacrifice and vowed to serve him” (Jonah 1:15-16).


    In fact, the Old Testament is full of similar stories of God proving and revealing Himself to be stronger and genuine in comparison to other idol gods (Elijah and the prophets of Baal, 1 Kings 18:18-40; Daniel’s dream interpretations to kings, Daniel 2-6; Moses and the Egyptians, Exodus 3-14; and more).


    We should not be using pagan metaphors to describe the God of the Bible. He is and has shown Himself more than capable of describing Himself.


    More creepy “drowning in God’s love” proofs:


    --Greg Boyd-drowning in God’s love, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meg2Da0MqCk  time: 9:02 till the end (I’ve never heard anyone pack so many lies about God and the Bible and Jesus as this man does in 10 minutes! See here for more: http://apprising.org/2008/12/12/greg-boyd-heretic/ ).




    --“Drowning is symbolic baptism, IF the character comes back up, symbolically reborn. But drowning on purpose can also represent a form of rebirth, a choosing to enter a new, different life, leaving an old one behind.” (From “How to Read Literature Like a Professor”, Thomas C. Foster, Notes by Marti Nelson)


    --http://butwhatifyahweh.blogspot.com/2011/10/drowningin-good-way.html   (using “Yahweh” doesn’t make you more spiritual, btw) 


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